Tuesday, January 03, 2006

Followup on "Economists & bioethicists"

Over on Slate, where I cross-posted a slightly edited version of the post below, I’ve received the following thoughtful comment from ElrohirAmroth:

“This case seems to have had no media attention until after she died... We don't know what the Bush Whitehouse or even the Texas governor might have done to stop this because we don't know that they knew anything about it... absent any evidence that Bush or others knew of the case and chose not to act, the hypocrisy charge is spurious.”

To which I’ve replied:

Your comments strike me as reasonable to a point.

Clearly neither Bush nor Governor Perry knew about this case in advance. But the Texas law that Bush signed has been the subject of widespread discussion since the Schiavo case hit the national news, if not sooner. Bush consulted with right-to-lifers before signing the law, and after a certain amount of tweaking, they signed off on it -- even though it was clear that it would lead to sentient people being taken off life support for purely financial reasons.

In the weeks since this woman has died, I've heard nobody in the Christian right raise the issue of making sure something like this never happens again. I'd welcome someone pointing out information to the contrary. Failing that, I think it is quite fair to raise the issue of hypocrisy.

Nor have I heard anyone on the right raise any concerns about fairness (here, or ever). Surely there are broader ethical issues associated with making life-and-death decisions like these based on ability to pay. How those ethical issues are ultimately decided, I'm not sure. I would never tell you they are easy.

But they deserve more attention, from both the left and the right -- including, one would hope, from those who staked out such a prominent public position on the Schiavo case, and based their position on their faith. Arguably that's what Landsburg was trying to do here. I would be tempted to credit him with courage if his moral sense wasn’t so crabbed. To write, as Landsburg does, that

"Accounting for 'economic considerations' means—by definition—trying to give people what they'll value the most. In other words, economic considerations are the basis of true compassion.."

ignores so much as to be truly incredible. Not least: that the tradeoffs poor individuals must make every day are extremely different from those that Mr. Landsburg and I face from our places of privilege in this society.

2 Comments:

At 1:40 PM, wtp said...

fyi - wtp here, wtp is the nom de blog of an old friend of our host Bill. Just getting the fine print out of the way here first - anything I write as wtp is (c) the author connected with the pen-name. All works appeariing here (unless otherwise marked) appear here for the first time and Bill has first-time rights to them, all other rights reserved.

Wow, life is fun when Sony and Disney own more Members of Congress than Abramoff did!

Anyway....the problem with bioethics in the US is our gutted schools have done such a wonderful job teaching basic science, and science is held in such wonderful repute by those who seem to think it Evil for it conflicts with Faith that, well 80% of *us* do not have the basic education to begin understanding these basic issues, let alone make policy.

Try answering this question - anyone who toog Grade 9/10 Biology in a New York State school since 1968 or so was *required* to be taught this one (I was taught it a coupla years later):

Stem cells are called "stem cells" because:

Go ahead, answer it.....

Here's another:
"Darwinian Evolution has:
A- Never been demonstrated.

B- Has been demonstrated in the field.

C - Has been demonstrated in the lab.

D - Has been disproven in field or lab many times

E - B&C

F - A&D

Human Stem cells come from:

A - Featuses

B - Embryos

C - Balls of 128 cells or fewer

D - Random cells at the edges of human organs

If you get any of these answers right, you'll probably be shut out of American politics, as were Adi Stevenson and Mike Dukakis because they and their advisors were depicted as "eggheads" (to use the 50s/60s terms) people we cannot trust to lead us because "they know more than we do."

The fact that the people who lead us know a lot more than we do - these days about criminal schemes to loot the Government and transfer money into their own hands has nothing to do with it, they're seen as "our kinda folks" because The Big Secrets are Big Secrets to them too!

Even during the "post-Sputnik" cold-war fears demanding "More science education" those who really knew any answers to any of the questions needed to start talking about things like bioethics are still shunned, these days as those college left-wingers that nobody's seen in 20 years, beyond the Token Marxist in the History or Economics department.

ur answers in - or just wait for the absurd ones. Dangerous truths next week.

 
At 12:41 AM, Anonymous said...

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